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Gay Chick-fil-A Employees Speak Out

'I call it hater appreciation day,' one said. The same-sex marriage controversy also affects those who work at the flashpoint company.

There are those who support Chick-fil-A's position on marriage. There are those who support just the opposite -- same-sex marriage.

And then there are the ones in the most difficult position of all in the controversy -- gay employees of Chick-fil-A.

-- How do you feel about the gay workers at Chick-fil-A? Tell us in the comments below.

"I call it hater appreciation day," said Andrew, 24, a gay man who has been working at a Chick-fil-A in northern Alabama since January. "It's very, very depressing."

Andrew was quoted in a Huffington Post article during Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day on Wednesday, Aug. 1. The nationwide event was coordinated by Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and presidential candidate.

The Huffington Post also quotes a gay employee at Chick-fil-A headquarters in Atlanta.

The gay employee, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of losing his job, said he is getting it from both sides. On the one hand, there is the customer who came in and said he supported Dan Cathy and then "continues to say something truly homophobic, e.g. 'I'm so glad you don't support the queers, I can eat in peace,'" the employee, who is 23 and has worked for Chick-fil-A since he was 16, wrote in an e-mail to the Post.

On the other hand, he continued, "I was yelled at for being a God-loving, conservative, homophobic Christian while walking some food out to a guest in a mall dining room."

Gabriel Aguiniga, a gay employee at a Chick-fil-A in Colorado, also said the hardest part hasn't been hearing Cathy's comments. Instead, "(it's) constantly having people come up to you and say, 'I support your company, because your company hates the gays,'" Aguiniga, 18, wrote in an e-mail to the Post. "It really takes a toll on me."

According to wikipedia.org, a watchdog group Equality Matters published a report with details of donations given by Chick-fil-A to organizations that are opposed to same-sex marriage, such as the Marriage & Family Foundation and the Family Research Council.

The Post also quotes a gay Chick-fil-A employee in Louisiana: "At the end of the day part of our profits still go towards Dan Cathy, and subsequently, all the organizations he supports," she said.

Compiled by Steve Burns.

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Alex August 05, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Interesting reply...This is a complicated situation. Like David, I am a Christian and have a number of gay acquaintences. Some I consider friends. All men sin, and being gay happens to be one of those sins. Yes, there is no specific commandment against it, just like there are no specific commandments against a lot of the sins we commit, but they are sins nonetheless. Most Christians recognize their sins and ask God's forgiveness and try not to repeat them.. When we see a group of people who are promoting a sinful lifestyle, the natural reaction is to work against it. Hence the whole Chick Fil A controversy. And yes, every person has a chance to repent of their sins and call on Christ for acceptance until their last breath. However, do we know when that last breath will come? Did the man or woman killed in a wreck on I-75 this week, in the chaos of the accident, have time, with their last thoughts, to say what some refer to as the "Sinners Prayer"? Thats when we acknowledge who God is and what He has done for us by sending Christ to take the penalty for our sin on Himself. For me, it took several months to come to the realization after I started paying attenton to His words. I'm thankful I wasn't in that random wreck before I accepted Christ. Please get a Bible and start reading,..especially the New Testament. Also, try and find a person or group to help you study it. They're out there. I and others will be praying for you.
Tim August 05, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Thank you so much for your prayers. I'm so ashamed that I'm living a sinners lifestyle. I'm going to start studying the Bible and before long I'll stop this lifestyle and become straight! Even though I started realizing I was gay when I was 12 or so (when other boys start liking girls) and I'm 56 now, I'm sure that I can be straight and one day get married. It shouldn't be too hard. After all, the founders of Exodus International did it. Oooops, it didn't work for them. Maybe they didn't pray hard enough. Actually Alex, have you thought about being gay? It should be just as easy to switch sides for you as it is for me. Just pray hard enough.
Rebecca August 05, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Aren't those on the "anti Chick-fil-a" side of this pretty much doing the exact same thing they are so mad at the "pro Chick-fil-a" people for doing?
J D Fowler August 05, 2012 at 04:42 PM
I do not believe there is a company out there that has never been sued for these same reasons and not settled out of court. You can't just throw that at Chick-fil-A's lap.
Paul Williams August 05, 2012 at 05:17 PM
Tim, are you ridiculing Alex's beliefs? Why are you not accepting of his differences and showing some tolerance? Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the proponents of gay marriage consider the fact that Christians will not agree with them enough to squeal "hate" without any requisite action. As a Christian heterosexual I accept your freedom to live as you choose but it has grown tiresome to have those who share my belief system cursed, slurred and called names. I grant "tolerance" out my yahoo but get NONE from the supporters of gay marriage in return. My failure to agree with them makes me inherently hateful, bigoted, ignorant, a bible-thumper, superstitious, etc., etc.,etc. Just who is being hateful and intolerant in this debate? It seems to me that one side is just pitching a temper tantrum because others won't ignore their own beliefs and let them have their way. Why to they so badly want the acceptance of a belief system that they revile and reject?
Jared August 05, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Paul, What this article is outlining is the fact that many of the people who showed up for the support CFA day had other motives then free speech or religious freedoms. The comments made to and around gay and lesbian employees were pretty awful and terribly mean spirited. I do believe that there are probably more productive ways that some in the GLBT community could handle this situation but at the same time look at the overwhelming response from those claiming to be Christian. The fact remains that there are people out there who claim to practice your religion who do and say some pretty terrible things in its name. You’re granting us your “tolerance” but that does not equal your understanding or empathy. If you want to see the image of Christians change on this issue – than take charge and do something to change it. Love your neighbor as you love yourself and let God be the judge of us all. We aren’t trying to change your religion – we simply want equal legal rights for our relationships. There is a difference between the two. Honestly Paul – when was the last time you read an article in the paper about a group of gay men killing a heterosexual Christian because he was straight or Christian? You’d be hard pressed to find one. However, if you search just the opposite google would have too many “o”s for one page. We react to Christians in the manner we do because that is what Christianity has taught some of us.
Paul Williams August 05, 2012 at 08:26 PM
Jared, you can read the minds and know the motives of those participating in "CFA Day"? Impressive! With over 1,600 restaurants in the USA it is not hard to project that there may have been as many as 2,000,000 or more CFA customers on that day; I find it a stretch to claim that the small number of incidents located by the MSM (and if there were more, they would surely promote it) represents a trend. Are there a few bad apples in very barrel? Sure, but you know better than to imply that this behavior was rampant- I see your opening as dishonest propaganda. And calling it an "overwhelming response" as you do in your second paragraph is pure deception spawned either by bad intent or blinded paranoia. Can you not accept that you have my understanding and empathy but you will not get my "endorsement"? God will in fact be the ultimate judge of us all (and I have sins that God deplores as much as homosexuality), but I am entitled to my worldview as much as you, and believers will not be bullied into silence by fringe activists such as you seem to be. There is an honest difference of opinion as to whether marriage is a right or a privilege, and your side is losing that debate. 32 states have passed constitutional amendments confirming traditional marriage as long defined, and petulant PDAs will do nothing but shrink your already limited support. To suggest that Christian on gay violence is rampant is disingenuous. Surely you can support your view more honestly.
prpatriot August 06, 2012 at 03:17 AM
Why (as George stated) is Mr. Cathy's personal opinion that he believes that marriage is between a man and a women all the sudden about gay rights? This is someone's opinion pure and simple, I get so tired of the radicals throwing fits when someone does not agree with there beliefs. Is this not a form of intolerance?? How hypocritical!! Isn't this American where we have the freedom to have opinions and use of 1st amendment rights? Actions like this don't help the gay cause. I even heard where some gays think this has gone to far. (that is why the counter protest was a flop)There will never be total equality in this country and we can't get so upset when someone doesn't agree with us.We have to agree to disagree. I think this whole situation is very sad and has gotten way out of hand. I also see Christians being attack at every level and it's time to stop being so PC and stand up for what your beliefs are. I applaud Mr. Cathy for standing by his beliefs. "To disagree with Mr. Cathy is American, to boycott and spew hateful language is Fascism" Know the difference folks...
Hal Schneider August 06, 2012 at 05:27 AM
12 cases of employment discrimination over 20 years (and notice it does NOT say for sexual preference) is NOTHING in the corporate world! Companies get sued for this at much higher rates elsewhere, but thanks for giving ALL the facts.
Joann August 06, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Paul thank you. I could not have said it any better.
william August 06, 2012 at 05:18 PM
A Christian follows the teachings of Christ, For all of you who have the King James version of Bible where Jesus' words are highlighted in red...so me one sentence where Jesus himself condemns homosexuality. Homosexuality and Adultery and Prostitution was conduct which was punishable by stonning to death. When Jesus came up a group preparing to stone an adulterous woman, he stopped to event and asked those among the group that was without sin to cast the first stone. How is what Dan Cathy is doing is walking in the footsteps of Jesus or maybe Dan should ask himself "What Would Jesus Do" in being so vocal against his beliefs on homosexuality. Would Jesus have condemned Gays and Gay Marriage today and would he have ejoyed making record earnings on the day his company was championed for hating gays?
Bill August 06, 2012 at 06:48 PM
David: Then why did God allow gays to be born. The evidence is more compelling everyday that one is born gay. Many researchers believe that the mother's hormone levels affect the fetus--1st borns are less likely to be gay than later borns. It's ludicrous to believe that someone can change their sexual preference--efforts by some right-wing Evangelical groups have been total failures. Because some see gay sexual acts as sin, should a person born gay simply become celibate his or her entire life? If GOD caused this, isn't GOD simply mean? And, in any event, how much is there clearly in the Bible about being gay. If you choose to follow some mean crap about gays in the Old Testament, do you also choose to follow God's alleged word there that folks working on Sundays should be killed--or, are you just picking and choosing to back-up your prejudices--just like a lot of Bible Thumpers did about slavery, integration, marriage between races, etc.. (I'm a married hetro by the way).
Bill August 06, 2012 at 06:57 PM
Paul, that's quite some spin. Why should Tim accept and tolerate someone's bigotry. If Alex was opposed to interracial marriage, would that be something someone should tolerate? Of course, the anti-gay marriage crowd must convince themselves that gay is a choice--in other words to completely bury their head in the ground and ignore the science (still developing) and, most importantly, life experiences from observing gay kids in grammar school--when they had no knowledge of the "gay agenda" whatsoever. Sorry, but if ones beliefs are ignorant, and advocate discrimination, there's no reason to give any respect to that belief.
Bill August 06, 2012 at 07:05 PM
Paul says: "your side is losing that debate. 32 states have passed constitutional amendments confirming traditional marriage as long defined." Nope, the anti-gay marriage crowd is losing. More and more states are supporting gay marriage--when it used to be none. Moreover, look at the opinion polls--slightly over 50% of the American public now supports gay marriage. If you look at the opinions of those under 30, the support level is much higher. Therefore, with continuing acceptance, 10 years from now likely 70-75% or more of the public under 40 will support gay marriage. Ignorance and hate are losing. P.S.--I've heard so many pious Christians state how much they deplore homosexuality but "love" the sinner. Some may really believe that, but those I know who say it are simply spouting the company line, they don't believe it, as they otherwise displace such disgust at gays.
Bill August 06, 2012 at 07:13 PM
prpatriot---I guess you would call Evangelicals not so long ago boycott of Disney to be Fascism???? Fascism, by the way, is corporate control of government. Mr. Cathy's "opinion" is about gay rights-that gays shouldn't have the right to marry. If Mr. Cathy was standing by his beliefs that women should remain in the kitchen, that interracial marriage was wrong, that country clubs should discriminate against Jews, would you applaud him. No one should be applauded simply for standing by their beliefs--if their beliefs are ignorant and immoral. I never see right-wingers throwing fits when they don't agree with liberals, do you. Of course, they do. Cathy certain has free speech rights (and threats like the Mayor of Boston made impermissibly interfere with his speech rights), and anyone was the right to boycott his greasy sandwiches and sugar water. Boycotting is the American way.
Paul Williams August 06, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Bill- You prove my point much better than I could have myself. I don't agree with you, and therefore I and slightly less than 50% of the population (per your numbers) are, and quote, guilty of "bigotry", "pious", and "ignorant". Our "ignorance and hate" are also obvious to you. (We are also "intolerant".) I know that you reject the use of the Bible, but as I "thump" mine I also read it. The prohibition of interracial marriage was a result of cultural bigotry but the Christian believes that same-sex marriage falls outside of the Biblical definition of marriage. Apples and oranges. As to homosexuality being genetic and not a choice, being gay is not biblical sin but homosexual sex is (as are adultery, lust, fornication, and any other sexual sin.) Does my genetic lust for my neighbor's wife mean that sex with her is inherently worthy of acceptance? What if I have a genetic disposition toward arson, or kleptomania, or even pedophilia? What if I am born with a genetic trait of excessive violence AND lust, as some are said to be? These traits without ACTION are not sinful, but to commit arson, to steal or to molest children or to rape do not demand public acceptance because I was born that way. I wouldn't be so confident in those polls you depend upon, either. How did the "polls" vs the actual election results on Proposition 8 turn out in California- one of the most liberal and gay-friendly states in the union?
Paul Williams August 06, 2012 at 08:17 PM
William- I am afraid that you lack (as even most Christians do) scriptural discernment. Jesus lived by the Old Testament law and told his followers to do so, as well ("I come not to abolish the law but to fulfill it" Matt. 5:17.) The punishment of adultery by death was a cultural thing but the sinfulness of sexual sin is indisputably part of the law. He provided a replacement for the required blood sacrifice with the shedding of His own blood, but he didn't reduce the definition of sin to the things he discussed during his brief public ministry. Don't waste time calling me ignorant- I already know you don't believe any of this. As to "WWJD", look to his behavior with prostitutes, publicans and tax-gatherers for an answer. He spent time with them and ate meals with them (how else could he impact their lives?) but he didn't agree with their sins (i.e. Zaccheous didn't continue to gouge the people for excessive money). I believe he told them, like He told the adulterous woman whose stoning he interrupted, in John 8:11, “Go and sin so more." Finally, are you attending talking point seminars with William? Mr. Cathy’s failure to agree with you does not equate to “hating gays”. I, like Jesus, do not condemn gays because I am keenly aware of my struggle with my own sins. However, saying a sin is not a sin does not make it so. In light of Biblical truth, hating a sinner would mean keeping quiet so that he can’t repent and avoid punishment.
Alex August 06, 2012 at 09:01 PM
Gosh Bill- I do believe in one of your earlier posts, in an indirect way, you called me a bigot. Do you believe that anyone who takes an opposing viewpoint from you on social issues is bigoted? Thats a hard road to walk in life. If you truly believe that anyone who takes an opposing viewpoint on certain issues is a bigot, then I could take the same tack and call you one, if I chose to do so. I personally don't go in for name calling, so I won't. And William, talking about Chick-Fil-A championing hate for Gays. I realize that for some on both sides, this is a highly emotional issue. However, the H word is too easily tossed around by any number of groups these days. To see what hate REALLY is, read up on the Holocaust, or watch the movie, Schindler's List. I'm sure the Jews, Gays, Gypsies, Christians, et al would have been thrilled if the Nazis showed their opposition by simply showing up at a fast-food joint to buy a chicken sandwich.
Jared August 07, 2012 at 01:19 AM
All this talk of religion... The best part is that it shouldn’t have anything to do with religion, not when it comes to the legality of gay marriage. There is a separation of church and state – just because your bible does not accept homosexuality doesn’t mean that my government should consider that when creating laws. Just because we disagree on it doesn’t mean it has to be made illegal. Just because I don’t agree with your religion doesn’t mean that you don’t deserve the right to be respected for it nor does it mean that you should be denied legal rights because of it. It is a melting pot of different beliefs and points of view – your religion is but one of many. Your religious beliefs should not stand in the way of my RIGHT to pursue happiness.
Paul Williams August 07, 2012 at 03:20 AM
Jared- A more accurate description would be that the constitution provided the church protection from the state and forbade the establishment of a state religion. “Separation of church and state” is a misnomer. People of faith have a right to participate in politics with a worldview determined by their own belief system. Just because the secular humanists prefer their religion we do not have to sit on the sidelines. Marriage was first a sacrament before it was a political football. I could not agree with you more that the gov't has no business determining what is and is not a valid marriage. However, since it has already exceeded the role intended for it by the Founding Fathers, Christians like myself will be engaged and will exercise their right to promote their worldview in the political arena. Rather than same-sex marriage being made illegal, I see marriage as a privilege granted to some and not to others. I understand that you think this is unfair. Life is unfair at times and we just have to accept it. I consider it unfair that a socialist President wants to take the fruits of my labor and share them with non-productive moochers, but it seems that a large portion of the population believes in some sort of imaginary social contract, whether I like it or not. We don’t always like the results, but as Churchill said, “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.” You win some, you lose some.
Jared August 07, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Heh, It's good to know that we disagree on so many other things aside from gay marriage Paul. The conversation here is rather pointless as we simply disagree. There's not much to be changed in continuing this. I think you're on wrong side of history on this and I think that there will be gay marriage... Its just a matter of time.
Scott August 07, 2012 at 08:09 PM
No Rebecca... you're obviously missing the point which seems to be a common theme here. Mr Cathy can preach and speak his mind all he wants.. we really don't care.. that's what freedom of speech is all about. What we have a problem with his him donating money to hate groups.....or groups that specifically target and try to keep me (I'm gay) from having the same rights as you, and i'm assuming you are straight. I don't see anywhere here or elsewhere were gays are donating money to any sort of group that promotes taking away the rights of straight people, or anyone else. Maybe you should actually to a minute to listen to what we are saying. My answer here keeps getting repeated over and over and it's getting reaaaaaaaally old.
Paul Williams August 07, 2012 at 08:35 PM
Scott- You seem to be the one with a reading comprehension problem. Your talking points are getting reaaaaaaaally old. Marriage is a privilege, not a right. You still have the equal "right" to marry any woman who will have you. We would both be better off if the Government had never "defined" marriage in the first place (not their constitutional role), but since they did, the only thing you can't do legally through contracts is file a joint tax return and call it "marriage". The term "marriage" originates in religion and is actually a sacrament of the church, and it is NOT available to everyone. In most states, you can't marry your 1st cousin, or a sibling, or your child, or any underaged person. The inability to file a joint tax return is admittedly an economic disadvantage, but if we want to discuss financial inequities in the modern US socialist welfare state that requires a whole new blog. I joined this discussion due to my irritation with the supporters of same-sex marriage insulting, cursing, name-calling, and labeling all of their opponents. You perpetuated that by referring to groups supporting traditional marriage as "hate groups". Because I disagree with you I don't hate you, but I assert that the same is not true of you, which may explain why you and your friends seem intellectually incapable of understanding that fact. You can't have an intellectually honest discussion with slanderers and name-callers, try as you might.
Kimberly Daniels August 08, 2012 at 01:21 PM
I have an 8 year old neice, who is spoiled beyond all reason. She demands her way, and when she is told "no" by her mother, she smiles at her, and goes right ahead and does it anyway. This happens at home, in public..ect. When her behavior is stopped by an adult, she proceeds to scream, cry, and yell at the top of her lungs "YOU HATE ME, EVERYONE HATES ME!!! Her behaviour is border sociopathic. She is so self absorbed, she cannot conceive that anything in her environment should stand in the way of her doing what she pleases. This goes beyond "normal" and often causes physical harm to herself, and others. I have been following this story of Chick Fil A, and their opinion on traditional marriage, and the ensueing TANDRUM by some individuals. 'I call it hater appreciation day' is a perfect example of this culteral mindset. When someone openly does not support that type of lifestyle, they go into hysterics, and cry YOU HATE US!! YOU ARE ALL HATERS! This to me, is no more then a sociopathic tantrum. Sociopathy is the lack of natural human values. It refers strictly to a social condition where a person knows, yet disregards, the intrinsic human values which are believed to be universal When people cannot "accept" that others hold to a moral code, which opposes their desired behaviour, they act out, or cry out, as my neice does "YOU HATE ME! Sociopaths REFUSE opposing opinions, and actually view opposing moral opinions as "hatred". If the shoe fits...
Paul Williams August 08, 2012 at 02:30 PM
Very, very well articulated, Kimberly.
Kimberly Daniels August 08, 2012 at 03:24 PM
Paul, Your post on Gods Laws, and Messiah was RIGHT ON! The issue with Chick Fil A "voicing an opinion" in favor of traditional marriage and opposing homosexual marriage has crossed the line of just being an issue of Biblical Morality vs Humanistic/Evolutionary Relativism (non morality). It is actually revealing, in a BIG WAY, that by-product of the latter worldview is the sociopathic tendancies being produced in individuals at an alarming rate. Sad to see.
Rebecca August 08, 2012 at 05:45 PM
The issue to me seems to be all about "hate" and I'm seeing things on both sides that one could call "hate"
Von August 08, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Paul-I love you! You are very well spoken and able to articulate your thoughts without being petty, cruel, or belittling the views of others. I love your approach and I've learned quite a bit from you (although I wouldn't kow you from a can of paint if I saw you) while reading your thread. Thanks for the enlightenment!
Ginger August 08, 2012 at 08:17 PM
I agree Paul , All I see from the other side is hate and ugly words. A christian can say something nice and the other side will have some ugly remark. They are the intolerant ones. Mr. Cathy started his business and he has the right to say what he believes and he has the right to give his money to whom ever he pleases. There are lots of companies that support gays and will not support Christians or Veterans. I don't believe God made people gay. I believe that all the chemicals and hormones in the foods are the cause of all the mental problems people are having.
Paul Williams August 08, 2012 at 09:21 PM
Thanks Von. Some of the resentment toward Christians has its roots in a lack of understanding, by Christians and non-believers alike, of the grace and mercy of God. Many think "those Christians are so arrogant! They think that they are better than everyone else and they are the only ones good enough to go to heaven; how pious!" They akin believers to the publican praying in public. To the contrary, a Christian who comprehends just a tiny bit of God's grace knows "I am a filthy sinner! I deserve damnation and am incapable, by my own efforts, to do anything about it! If God threw me in the pit of hell I could claim no injustice. BUT- he has provided everything that I need to be saved- the entire and complete sacrifice- and then chose to draw me to Himself." That reality produces overwhelming humility and leaves no room for arrogance or pride. Whatever form of sin I may condemn, I have been guilty of greater and have no room to gloat. And appropriate gratitude for that immeasureable FREE gift makes me want to share that with all who will listen. And if I express hate or disgust about their sin to others I will hinder their ability to hear.

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